It was wonderful to hear you both talk. Discussing how you have and are working to keep the delicate balance of taking care of self, each other and all. Appreciate the tip to listen to talks by “the good guys”. You, both are so inspiring and helpful by your loving choices and day to day activities - you help “remind me” that my out look on life and what I accomplish is within reach. Quieting the mind....yes! Reprogramming the mind—I need that now. Thank you again for sharing with your sofa talks. Your talks are a beacon of bright light; and I humbly thank you. Namaste